Comments on: Oscar Recap: An Awkward Night http://www.streetverse.com/index.php/2010/03/oscar-recap-an-awkward-night/ Streets and Rythm Sat, 19 Jun 2010 16:25:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Sally Vox http://www.streetverse.com/index.php/2010/03/oscar-recap-an-awkward-night/comment-page-1/#comment-90 Sally Vox Wed, 10 Mar 2010 01:56:42 +0000 http://www.streetverse.com/index.php/2010/03/oscar-recap-an-awkward-night/#comment-90 Re: Inglorious, My take on the movie was that it was all about the ability for people to pretend to be something they are not and the consequences that brings (Language is the biggest medium Tarantino uses here). The whole movie, that Fred Zoller acts nice/polite albeit a little forward. It is when he shows his "true self (e.g. a horny dick)", he is punished for it. Soshanna keeps up a "tough girl" front the whole movie, until she shows her true compassionate self by getting in close...then BAM, hand of God justice. This is true for many of the characters in the movie: Snooty british guy is killed when his disguise is removed. Frau von Hammersmark is choked to death when her true self is revealed. Hans Landa, the master of facade, has, arguably, the worst punishment in the movie. The winners? Aldo Raine, who stays true to himself even in disguise (Bonjorno.) He can only ever be himself, for which he is rewarded. Im trying to work hitler and goebbels into my theory but it's difficult. A+ for you for liking Taegukgi, my favorite korean movie ever. Re: Inglorious, My take on the movie was that it was all about the ability for people to pretend to be something they are not and the consequences that brings (Language is the biggest medium Tarantino uses here). The whole movie, that Fred Zoller acts nice/polite albeit a little forward. It is when he shows his “true self (e.g. a horny dick)”, he is punished for it. Soshanna keeps up a “tough girl” front the whole movie, until she shows her true compassionate self by getting in close…then BAM, hand of God justice. This is true for many of the characters in the movie: Snooty british guy is killed when his disguise is removed. Frau von Hammersmark is choked to death when her true self is revealed. Hans Landa, the master of facade, has, arguably, the worst punishment in the movie. The winners? Aldo Raine, who stays true to himself even in disguise (Bonjorno.) He can only ever be himself, for which he is rewarded. Im trying to work hitler and goebbels into my theory but it’s difficult. A+ for you for liking Taegukgi, my favorite korean movie ever.

]]> By: The Rational Investor http://www.streetverse.com/index.php/2010/03/oscar-recap-an-awkward-night/comment-page-1/#comment-89 The Rational Investor Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:57:34 +0000 http://www.streetverse.com/index.php/2010/03/oscar-recap-an-awkward-night/#comment-89 Alrite, well with the oscar picks snubbing hurt locker and avatar winning everything it came off a bit fanboyish. My apologies. I am a war movie and hurt locker fan boy. I haven't experienced a war movie of its caliber since Taegukgi. To me the story itself is what sells a movie more so than contributions to the art. I liked how everything was subtle about the story. All the bullshit conflicts the soldiers were going through trying to find meaning all ended inconclusive, yet they were still addicted to the battle. Tarantino's film sorta achieved subtleness, but I felt there was too much going on to pick up on the key point (i.e. girl getting shot before she starts fire (what value did this add to the story besides a twist?)). I think the Oscars typically reward subtle storytelling (no country for old men, hurt locker) or a special technique in telling of the story (slumdog, crash). I don't think they'll dickride contributions to art until they are realized after 10-20 years have passed. That's why someone like Clint Eastwood won for a mediocre movie that he made (unforgiven) like 80 years after he starred in the greatest western of all time (good the bad the ugly). And Terminator didn't win but a hat's off goes to cameron 80 years later with Titanic winning best picture. Anyway, thanks for the clarification on your thoughts. Alrite, well with the oscar picks snubbing hurt locker and avatar winning everything it came off a bit fanboyish. My apologies. I am a war movie and hurt locker fan boy. I haven’t experienced a war movie of its caliber since Taegukgi. To me the story itself is what sells a movie more so than contributions to the art. I liked how everything was subtle about the story. All the bullshit conflicts the soldiers were going through trying to find meaning all ended inconclusive, yet they were still addicted to the battle. Tarantino’s film sorta achieved subtleness, but I felt there was too much going on to pick up on the key point (i.e. girl getting shot before she starts fire (what value did this add to the story besides a twist?)). I think the Oscars typically reward subtle storytelling (no country for old men, hurt locker) or a special technique in telling of the story (slumdog, crash). I don’t think they’ll dickride contributions to art until they are realized after 10-20 years have passed. That’s why someone like Clint Eastwood won for a mediocre movie that he made (unforgiven) like 80 years after he starred in the greatest western of all time (good the bad the ugly). And Terminator didn’t win but a hat’s off goes to cameron 80 years later with Titanic winning best picture. Anyway, thanks for the clarification on your thoughts.

]]> By: Sally Vox http://www.streetverse.com/index.php/2010/03/oscar-recap-an-awkward-night/comment-page-1/#comment-87 Sally Vox Tue, 09 Mar 2010 03:07:30 +0000 http://www.streetverse.com/index.php/2010/03/oscar-recap-an-awkward-night/#comment-87 oh, and I understand your opinion on inglourious basterds, to many people it was masturbatory in it's references, etc. But when you put all those little wink wink nudges together you get a movie that worships the medium of cinema, which to a movie lover like me, is pure cocaine. You have to admit it's quotable, at least. It's the type of script that gets studied and dissected. Cheers mate oh, and I understand your opinion on inglourious basterds, to many people it was masturbatory in it’s references, etc. But when you put all those little wink wink nudges together you get a movie that worships the medium of cinema, which to a movie lover like me, is pure cocaine. You have to admit it’s quotable, at least. It’s the type of script that gets studied and dissected. Cheers mate

]]> By: Sally Vox http://www.streetverse.com/index.php/2010/03/oscar-recap-an-awkward-night/comment-page-1/#comment-86 Sally Vox Tue, 09 Mar 2010 02:54:10 +0000 http://www.streetverse.com/index.php/2010/03/oscar-recap-an-awkward-night/#comment-86 I think you misunderstand what value I place on Avatar. I'm not a fanboy. I understand it's faults, which are many, some of them unforgivable and deserving of all the hatorade the internet is capable of summoning. I was merely observing the only two choices that had any chance of winning. If you want my personal opinion, I hated the story of Avatar, I just like arguing for my own socratic development. My hate of hurt locker isn't from my avatar fanboyness but from my analysis of it's merits and faults which it too has. The script, while technically proficient, lacked sincerity and tact, treating soldiers with anything but respect. My cousin was brought to tears by the movie which treats soldiers as cowboys addicted to blood rage and adrenaline. This is all done with the purpose of being unique. Direction wise, the movie lacked continuity, clarity of purpose, and the camera work was uninspired. If avatar stole it's story, hurt locker stole it's angles, it's camera grain, it's camera movement. When looked at as a full product hurt locker did not add anything new to cinema or to writing. The most innovative part of hurt locker was in it's sound mixing and editing, which to me is the major element that created it's much praised suspense. I seek not to be a "fanboy", I seek to present information that is not as common. I was tired of seeing all the avatar hate, so I found good things about it. Hurt locker was praised to no end, but it is in no way, a perfect movie. As for the academy, I've always had contempt for their choices, I am just boiling over the smear campaign ran by the hurt lockers producer. I think you misunderstand what value I place on Avatar. I’m not a fanboy. I understand it’s faults, which are many, some of them unforgivable and deserving of all the hatorade the internet is capable of summoning. I was merely observing the only two choices that had any chance of winning. If you want my personal opinion, I hated the story of Avatar, I just like arguing for my own socratic development. My hate of hurt locker isn’t from my avatar fanboyness but from my analysis of it’s merits and faults which it too has. The script, while technically proficient, lacked sincerity and tact, treating soldiers with anything but respect. My cousin was brought to tears by the movie which treats soldiers as cowboys addicted to blood rage and adrenaline. This is all done with the purpose of being unique. Direction wise, the movie lacked continuity, clarity of purpose, and the camera work was uninspired. If avatar stole it’s story, hurt locker stole it’s angles, it’s camera grain, it’s camera movement. When looked at as a full product hurt locker did not add anything new to cinema or to writing. The most innovative part of hurt locker was in it’s sound mixing and editing, which to me is the major element that created it’s much praised suspense.
I seek not to be a “fanboy”, I seek to present information that is not as common. I was tired of seeing all the avatar hate, so I found good things about it. Hurt locker was praised to no end, but it is in no way, a perfect movie. As for the academy, I’ve always had contempt for their choices, I am just boiling over the smear campaign ran by the hurt lockers producer.

]]> By: The Rational Investor http://www.streetverse.com/index.php/2010/03/oscar-recap-an-awkward-night/comment-page-1/#comment-85 The Rational Investor Tue, 09 Mar 2010 01:17:10 +0000 http://www.streetverse.com/index.php/2010/03/oscar-recap-an-awkward-night/#comment-85 I still don't understand why you Avatar fanboys hate on Hurt Locker. Avatar was essentially reading a comic book and hurt locker was reading a war journal. While the Amazing Spiderman is an entertaining read it will never be read in a Lit class where as something like Michael Herr's Dispatches would. While both have artistic value, one stands out as worthy of study. And Hurt Locker typical war movie? How typical is Avatar once you remove the added depth dimension? For the most part I think the academy got their picks right. It was an overall shitty movie year, so expect someone like Bullocks to win. P.S. Tarantino's Bear Jew movie is prob the most average movie he's put out. Luckily he has that POS Jackie Brown, Kill Bill 2 and death proof, otherwise it wouldve been his worst. I still don’t understand why you Avatar fanboys hate on Hurt Locker. Avatar was essentially reading a comic book and hurt locker was reading a war journal. While the Amazing Spiderman is an entertaining read it will never be read in a Lit class where as something like Michael Herr’s Dispatches would. While both have artistic value, one stands out as worthy of study. And Hurt Locker typical war movie? How typical is Avatar once you remove the added depth dimension? For the most part I think the academy got their picks right. It was an overall shitty movie year, so expect someone like Bullocks to win.

P.S. Tarantino’s Bear Jew movie is prob the most average movie he’s put out. Luckily he has that POS Jackie Brown, Kill Bill 2 and death proof, otherwise it wouldve been his worst.

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